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Martian_Time_slip 04-10-2008 04:28 PM

Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
I have a palladium bermuda $25 coin I want to get graded, but from what I read, pcgs and the other one only grade us coins. Are there any that grade foreign coins?

Firenhole 04-11-2008 06:13 PM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martian_Time_slip (Post 1055971)
I have a palladium bermuda $25 coin I want to get graded, but from what I read, pcgs and the other one only grade us coins. Are there any that grade foreign coins?

I suggest you go to either PCGS or NGC's forum and ask your question, you may have to join too post.


Firenhole

Firenhole 04-11-2008 06:22 PM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
Martain NGC grades coins from Bermuda, do a little leg work, it took me 2 mins!


Firenhole

tomexxtra 04-11-2008 09:36 PM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
Save your money.
US coin dealers and US Ebayers [citizens] buy US coins.
Why spend money on a coin to find out it's a MS 65 or 66 or 68
Nobody is going to pay you any more money for it.
If you want to know just for your self than tell yourself it's
the best and be happy. They will only pay for melt, if you think
otherwise come over here and buy all my Balboa & other foreign
coins. Pay an exxtra $25.00 each for grading if you want.
I had a customer sell me a graded a 1964 dime and 64 Kennedy
half. yes I gave her an extra .10 cents for the dime and .50 cents
for the 1/2. What a beating she took [I think her husband had it done]

Raccoon 04-12-2008 01:31 AM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomexxtra (Post 1058175)
Save your money.
US coin dealers and US Ebayers [citizens] buy US coins.

..And Bermudans buy Bermudan coins. MTS may want to sell it in Bermuda, perhaps he is living there already.

Firenhole 04-12-2008 04:34 AM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomexxtra (Post 1058175)
Save your money.
US coin dealers and US Ebayers [citizens] buy US coins.
Why spend money on a coin to find out it's a MS 65 or 66 or 68
Nobody is going to pay you any more money for it.
If you want to know just for your self than tell yourself it's
the best and be happy. They will only pay for melt, if you think
otherwise come over here and buy all my Balboa & other foreign
coins. Pay an exxtra $25.00 each for grading if you want.
I had a customer sell me a graded a 1964 dime and 64 Kennedy
half. yes I gave her an extra .10 cents for the dime and .50 cents
for the 1/2. What a beating she took [I think her husband had it done]

Actually I don't see where Martain was asking opinions on grading Bermuda coins, more of where or who does it.

Firenhole

Seleukus Nikator 04-14-2008 10:09 AM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
a lot of foreigns get graded by ANACS. not sure why. ICG is advertising themselves as foreign grading experts to in their recent promotional push.

Firenhole 04-14-2008 07:28 PM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seleukus Nikator (Post 1061029)
a lot of foreigns get graded by ANACS. not sure why. ICG is advertising themselves as foreign grading experts to in their recent promotional push.

Why use encapsulation services when one of the two (PCGS/NGC) premire grading services (NGC) grades foreign coin? Using other services will never get the same money, unless it's a bullion coin.:D


Firenhole

Seleukus Nikator 04-15-2008 05:39 PM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Firenhole (Post 1061809)
Why use encapsulation services when one of the two (PCGS/NGC) premire grading services (NGC) grades foreign coin? Using other services will never get the same money, unless it's a bullion coin.:D


Firenhole

I dont know, I havent ever done it. You express a valid point. I would speculate that the other services might be cheaper and someone with a low value coin would only want the service for authentication perhaps.

Also, I dont think NGC or PCGS will grade altered or cleaned coins. ANACS will. NCS will. I think NGC will send them to NCS if you send them in and they cant do it because its been cleaned. Or so I've heard.

Martian_Time_slip 04-16-2008 05:40 PM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
Thanks for the input. You guys remind me of a couple high schools friends. Super smart (one of them proved 0 = 1 using limits, without dividing by zero), but he would kill any boardgame or roleplaying game because he would dissect all the rules down and until he found some loophole. Good times, good times. :D

Firenhole 04-18-2008 04:02 AM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martian_Time_slip (Post 1064930)
Thanks for the input. You guys remind me of a couple high schools friends. Super smart (one of them proved 0 = 1 using limits, without dividing by zero), but he would kill any boardgame or roleplaying game because he would dissect all the rules down and until he found some loophole. Good times, good times. :D

Have you decided too submit your coin? If so please let us know how it graded out...


Firenhole

Bullionaire 04-18-2008 09:25 AM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
A little late, but that coin is a melter...whether it is ms 65 66 67 89 110.

Save your grading fees and buy lunch.

Graded Modern foreign just does not warrant the extra expense, there are simply "NO BUYERS" unless you find an absolute chump from Bermuda on that one, and I doubt that, they are too busy enjoying the weather.

beefsteak 04-18-2008 10:09 AM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seleukus Nikator (Post 1061029)
a lot of foreigns get graded by ANACS. not sure why. ICG is advertising themselves as foreign grading experts to in their recent promotional push.

Yours truly believes the "why" can be answered in part by the following information.

One of this nation's foremost authorities on "US MINTED FOREIGN" is an esteemed board member and current librarian for the ANACS' copious library of research documents on the topic of coins, and most especially on U.S.M'd foreign. I was not aware of just how enormously large the numbers of countries the U.S.M. produces coinage for until D.M. showed me his personal catalog of his personal, mint-state grade, U.S.M'd foreign collection several years back.

One of the few remaining "single digit" original ANACs member number owners, D.M., is a walking encyclopedia of accurate coin info, and fortunately for me, my friend. The caliber of the people who helped launch ANACs so very long ago is one of the reasons it is an enduring "coin grading institution."

:bull-buddy-icon:

beefsteak 04-18-2008 10:32 AM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomexxtra (Post 1058175)
...
I had a customer sell me a graded a 1964 dime and 64 Kennedy
half. yes I gave her an extra .10 cents for the dime and .50 cents
for the 1/2. What a beating she took [I think her husband had it done]

Yours truly begs to differ, tomexxtra.

Back when PCGS was leader of the pack and trying to gain critical mass acceptance for their slabbing/3rd party grading concept, PCGS would hold grading seminars. The paid participants would commonly receive [a basically worthless samples of slabbed] dimes or halves for taking the "class/seminar." Mine--a 64 Roosevelt Dime-- was parsed out to me at the conclusion of the PCGS grading seminar at a major coin show several years ago.

Seleukus Nikator 04-18-2008 03:29 PM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beefsteak (Post 1067507)
Yours truly believes the "why" can be answered in part by the following information.

One of this nation's foremost authorities on "US MINTED FOREIGN" is an esteemed board member and current librarian for the ANACS' copious library of research documents on the topic of coins, and most especially on U.S.M'd foreign. I was not aware of just how enormously large the numbers of countries the U.S.M. produces coinage for until D.M. showed me his personal catalog of his personal, mint-state grade, U.S.M'd foreign collection several years back.

One of the few remaining "single digit" original ANACs member number owners, D.M., is a walking encyclopedia of accurate coin info, and fortunately for me, my friend. The caliber of the people who helped launch ANACs so very long ago is one of the reasons it is an enduring "coin grading institution."

:bull-buddy-icon:



hot damn! someone at this forum that actually takes an interest in numismatics. welcome!

beefsteak 04-29-2008 01:26 AM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
Seleukus Nikator, thank you for your warm welcome. Yes, I am just a tad more than numismatically inclined. :clap2: My first collection, like many others of my generation was the Lincoln Penny set. Before I was 30, I had six complete sets with all of the keys in XF or better condition. Was a thrilling accomplishment I still haven't gotten over.

Ahhhhhhhh, the good old days.... :D

Seleukus Nikator 04-29-2008 09:46 AM

Re: Where can I get foreign coins graded?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beefsteak (Post 1082481)
Seleukus Nikator, thank you for your warm welcome. Yes, I am just a tad more than numismatically inclined. :clap2: My first collection, like many others of my generation was the Lincoln Penny set. Before I was 30, I had six complete sets with all of the keys in XF or better condition. Was a thrilling accomplishment I still haven't gotten over.

Ahhhhhhhh, the good old days.... :D

I ran short of money a whiles back for a time, which is when I started my lincoln sets, just to keep myself active. Once the collecting bug bites its a permanent itch.


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